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Announcements Plagiarism within the Peyups community
Contributed by amplifier (Edited by amplifier)  
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 12:00:19 AM
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It has come to our attention recently (and also because of Kuo Chun's article, also out today -- check out the Column column on your right) that there are rampant cases of plagiarism happening on the Net.

While we cannot control any of your actions, dear readers, please bear in mind that if you copy-paste any of the articles within Peyups, it is very easy for us to google for it.

For example, this site has copy-pasted the following articles from Peyups.com:

So far, these are the articles that I have seen on the blog site. There is no acknowledgement, no mention of Peyups (except in one copy-pasted article), and no indication that the articles were from any other Web site ("i got this from a friend", whatever).

Please be reminded that PLAGIARISM IS A CRIME.

Karma is a bitch, but it makes me livid just the same.

Kuo Chun, thanks for bringing our attention to this problem.

*****

Additionally, if you know of any articles within Peyups that were lifted or copied off other sources, and are unacknowledged, please don't hesitate to PM me or any of the moderators and editors.





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Yesterday, rhealovesyou@yahoo.com wrote to this editor and wrote the following:

===

Me and my officemates were playing around when we decided to search for our names over the internet. I was shocked when the topmost search result was on peyups.com. I could not believe what I saw when I read the article that showed my name "rhea jade locsin".

As far as NBI is concerned nobody else here in the Philippines owns that name besides me.

Please let the website moderator know that I am the real RHEA JADE LOCSIN and I did not plagiarize anything nor did I maintain a certain greenstone.tk. I do not know how they are going to do it but I hope they take my name off the article as it has affected my personal life.

===

alteredbeast


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Re: by apocalypse
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 12:47:47 AM
After reading this, nag-google ako to check baka may nagplaplagiarize nga ng mga sinulat ko.. At nalaman ko na mayroong isang blogger na nagcu-cut-n-paste ng mga gawa ko.. in fact, halos karamihan ng mga blog entries ko, kinokopya niya .. nakakalungkot :(

Ayoko na lang sabihin kung sino siya at kung ano yung blog niya.

pero hindi ba nakakahiya na you are claiming something na hindi naman sa iyo? Dapat marealize nila na madaling malaman ng author, lalo na ngayon (thanks to Google), na plina-plagiarize ang kanyang mga gawa. I hope magbago na sila.


  • Re: by seminarista on Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 03:14:54 PM
  • holy shat! by bardaguls on Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 10:31:45 PM
  • Re: by foolmars on Saturday, December 31, 2005 @ 01:06:57 PM
Re: by payatitat
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 03:23:56 AM
matagal nang problema ito. mismong kapatid ko, inaway ko nga kasi mga peyups.com articles ang pinagtitripan niyang i-cut-and-paste at ipadala sa boyfriend niya. gumawa nga ako ng article tungkol sa pamimirata niya (kung hindi lang ako nakapagpigil eh, ipinost ko na dito yung letters niya).

marami na akong nakikita at nababasang blog entries at forwarded messages (esp sa friendster) na ninakaw mula sa site na ito.

authors, beware. you have the right to sue those dork people who have plagiarized your write-ups.

and to those dork people, kung di ninyo kayang magcite ng sources ninyo, huwag na ninyong ipagpatuloy ang blog ninyo. you're risking yourselves just for a moment of undeserved fame.


Tama bang kopyahin?!! by Jadeite
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 08:25:10 AM
Once I learned about all of this, bigla akong nawindang. It's good to know that they like your writings enough to copy it and post it on other websites, but to claim it as their own is very pathetic. No good will be done in doing that, except making a fool of oneself especially if the article is well-popular enough that the readers actually knew who really wrote it.

Katangahan ang gumagawa nun. Malaking kababawan.


Re: It happens by Handyfemme
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 08:32:54 AM
Been a victim once, twice, heh. One time I found my article posted in a certain friend-finding community tapos I reported it to the admin after posting a reply sa thread na akin yung article. You know what one poster said? S/he said na it's the internet and I should just deal with the fact that people will spread the article kasi nasa internet daw yun. I was like, huh?

Sa palagay ko hindi excuse ang madaliang pagkopya ng articles sa internet para hindi ka mag-cite or magbigay ng nararapat na credit sa mga taong nagsusulat sa webzine/community, Peyups in particular.

Anyway, happy holidays everyone. :)


Piracy vs Plagiarism by caravaggio
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 09:20:06 AM
When I told someone about this problem, he had the gall to tell me that I shouldn't complain because I download mp3s and movies and tv eps just the same. But there is a difference: it's the media conglomerates' fault that CDs and DVDs are so f*cking expensive. If they were cheaper I certainly wouldn't have any reason to get them off the net or at Metrowalk. But if you're a lousy writer, it's not my fault that I write better than you do. So don't feed off of me for it.


Re: korek! by nescafe_ice13
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 09:39:43 AM
it really does! once, i got an article of noringai forwarded thru an email. dahil friend ko yung nag-email, i immediately called her attention na kilala ko ang sumulat nun. good thing me nakalagay na finorward yun ng friend nya (at nandun yung byline ni miss norin).

numero unong rule sa up na bawal ang plagiarism (kaya nga nagkakawindang-windang tayo na di makopya yung exact word na ginagamit ng mga sources natin di ba?). dapat rin siguro kapag nagfoforward tayo ng mga artiks, kahit di sa peyups, that we cite our sources. it is just too bad that other people do not.

gatungan ko lang si carvaggio. at least when we download mp3s and movies, it is for our personal enjoyment--and we don't post it anywhere public and pass it as our own.


Re: korek! by nescafe_ice13
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 09:40:20 AM
it really does! once, i got an article of noringai forwarded thru an email. dahil friend ko yung nag-email, i immediately called her attention na kilala ko ang sumulat nun. good thing me nakalagay na finorward yun ng friend nya (at nandun yung byline ni miss norin).

numero unong rule sa up na bawal ang plagiarism (kaya nga nagkakawindang-windang tayo na di makopya yung exact word na ginagamit ng mga sources natin di ba?). dapat rin siguro kapag nagfoforward tayo ng mga artiks, kahit di sa peyups, that we cite our sources. it is just too bad that other people do not.

gatungan ko lang si caravaggio. at least when we download mp3s and movies, it is for our personal enjoyment--and we don't post it anywhere public and pass it as our own.


tignan niyo to by aaliyah
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 11:03:35 AM
Just last week i received a message in my peyups inbox, and the first half goes like this:

http://www.xanga.com/zupermann

she regularly steals people's words right out from their mouth. i know her so therefore shes's a friend and also a foe. we've had a dark past. people have confronted her of this including me and she flatly out denies n says shes just a damn good writer and were all just dyin of envy that she has a great mind and judge her because of our owin insecurities. this girl gotta stop. shes pretentous and a pathological lyer at that....

I checked the site pero hindi ko alam kung primitibo lang ang browser ko dahil wala naman akong makitang "sinulat" kuno nung plagiarist. Anyway nagrequest yung sender na wag ko raw siyang pangalanan dahil kaibigan niya yung culprit. Pinost ko lang dito kasi baka makatulong yung IP address kung may ilan man sa inyo, kung hindi ako, ang nanakawan ng gawa.

...There oughta be a law...


Re: by nerbyos
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 12:02:47 PM
may mga ganitong kaso na dati pa. naalala ko dati, may nagpost sa skl thread na isang blogsite na super magplagiarize. ayun, dinumog ng mga peyups peeps. nagapologize naman yung tao. nakakalungkot talaga.medyo mahirap kontrolin lang, lalo na dito sa net. sana di na gawin ulit. wehehe.


oh and get this... by paperclip
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 12:19:05 PM
someone even posted a comment here accusing ME of stealing MY OWN work:

shame on you by ai_basti
Tuesday, August 23, 2005 @ 04:48:46 AM

that literary piece is astounding and in such verbiage,
that plagiarising it is very pathetic and prepostorous;
to think that someone
would stoop so low as to take all the glory
to something that is not his.

i know the article by heart and i could still remember where, when and why i wrote it. now i feel like im sharing my chessboard with the rest of the world.

i should've just kept it inside my baul.


share ko lang... by noringai
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 12:29:42 PM
...na other sites, such as tristan cafe, peyupi and friendly factor (not sure about the exact name), also publish articles from peyups.

... na a peyups member submitted my article "parang kayo pero hindi" with the subject "you and me, not us" sa... surprise... sa peyups din! how stupid can you get? magpa-plagiarize ka ng article, dun mo pa isa-submit sa mismong pinang-galingan ng article!!!

... na kaya ko sinulat ang article na copycat kasi nakakainis na ang pinaghirapan mong isulat na article ay aangkin lang ng iba.

... na isa sa dahilan kung bakit hindi na ako nagsusulat ng articles sa column ko dito sa peyups ngayon ay dahil sa nananakaw lang naman ng ibang tao. and eventually, sa kakaforward sa email o kakalagay sa mga blogs, napupulot na ng iba at nagiging common term na such as "the kris aquino complex."




Re: nakakatakot by muzikera
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 12:40:19 PM
akala ko kung anong copy-paste ang tinutukoy dito. ako kasi, gawain kong i-save sa notepad ng pc ko yung mga peyups artiks kasi sayang sa net hours pag sa net ko pa babasahin kasi super bagal ko magbasa..hehe! pero hindi ko naman ikinakalat yun at hindi ko rin kine-claim na gawa ko yun. hindi naman siguro mali yun. (diba?) tutal ako lang naman ang nagbabasa nun e.

sang-ayon ako na mali talaga ang mga pinaggagagawa ng mga taong mahilig mang-angkin ng mga bagay na di naman sa kanila. kung talagang natutuwa ka sa artik, ano ba naman yung sabihin mo lang kung saan galing or kung sino ang nagsulat nun? hindi naman yun mahirap gawin at wala namang mawawala sa'yo, diba?

kawawa naman yung mga taong gumagawa nito kasi hindi sila napalaki at naturuan ng tama. yung iba naman, hindi naman sinasadyang "mang-angkin" pero dahil sa hindi alam na dapat palang i-cite ang sources whatever, ginagawa rin to. tsk!tsk!

actually uso na ito nung high school - yung pag-copy-paste ng para sa mga book reports/film reviews. nakakainis talaga pag pinaghirapan mo yung gawa mo tapos yung ibang classmates mo nangopya lang sa net ng project nila tapos mas mataas pa ang makukuha nilang grade. pero sabi ko nga sa sarili ko dati, "wala naman sa grade yan. ang tanong jan, kung natuto ka. ako, oo. eh kayo?!"


Surprisingly by caramel_sundae
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 12:45:29 PM
ABA't biktima rin pala ako nito.
http://forum.friendshipfactor.net/index.php?showtopic=1268&hl=heartbreaker
oh well..wala namang kaso sa akin iyon."hiramin" nila kung gusto nila.pero para sa mga writer na tunay na talentado, kawawa nga naman sila kung yung works nila ay inaangkin ng iba.tsk.kainis yun!


Re: Plagiarism is a crime by johannes_lee
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 01:25:51 PM
it's okay to copy paste as long as we cite where the friggn' thing came from. mahiya naman sana yung ganoon. yes, we don't have any control with whoever copies literary works here, and that's realy sad. even in a simple term paper, it is necessary that you cite your sources. mahirap bang gawin yun?


Re: ...? by suicidalgirl
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 04:13:56 PM
sana di na maulit ang ganitong klase ng krimen, patawarin nalang natin ung nagkasala, sana di na nya ulitin. wahaha...


Re: by timang
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 04:27:11 PM
copy and paste.. but dont forget to reference where you got the article from. i dont know if they have been taught not to plagiarise.

*disappointed*


Re: wahaha! by johannes_lee
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 04:53:08 PM
wawa naman si Rhea Jade Locsin. Sabi niya sa isa sa mga post niya, she's from UP. Nag CW 10 kaya siya? malamang hindi kasi di niya alam ang IPR at Plagiarism.

Peyupsters, Unite! Magcomment kayo sa blog niya! maski dun sa tagboard! show her what she deserves!


  • Re: -> by suicidalgirl on Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 05:05:04 PM
Re: by flint
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 06:40:11 PM
Ang website ni Rhea Jade Locsin ay www.greenstone.tk. Iba pa to sa blog at friendster acct nya. May picture rin sya dun so baka may makakilala sa kanya kung pumasok nga sya sa UP. Maraming mga literary anik anik, kaso hindi ako sure kung alin dun ang mga lifted. Just go to her site if you want to check it out. And please, please if we could just flood it with our comments. She should stop. It's just disgusting.


Re: hay...ako rin! by aouie
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 06:44:03 PM
napraning ako at sinearch ko yong article ko sa google. at nakita ko nga sa blog ng iba. wala na ngang credit na binigay sa kin, pinutol pa yong article. kidnapped na mutilated pa. and this person even disabled the comments part on her blog.


Ito pa isa!!! by s_w_a_y
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 10:12:45 PM
http://cinabon.multiply.com/journal

i found, not only my article, but a bunch of them from peyups... (articles of vain, caravaggio, and linchpin, to name a few) and yep!!! with no proper citations as well. i would've just shrugged this off, until i found THIS.. where she says
I met a very close friend of mine.. had dinner at zao and did some catching up.. she mentioned that I write and post the saddest things she can remember reading.. It made me ask myself, I am that obvious when it comes to my words?
MY WORDS?!?!?!?! now that made me snap... wala nga lang akong multiply account, so i cannot comment on her journal... so for those who do have multiply, please!!! maybe you could tell her off too... this is just too much!


Re: tsk... tsk... by _rattrap_
Thursday, December 22, 2005 @ 11:17:48 PM
I was reading an email forwarded to me by one of my friends... and replied back agad sa kanya na sana nilagay man lang niya yung source and author of the article he sent na alam kong galing sa Peyups. Nakaka irita lang kasi na the keep on lifting articles on peyups na wala man lang acknowledgment... then i went to peyups site then andito na yung article na ito... galing!


Re: by sternoclavicular
Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 12:12:45 AM
napa-search agad ako sa google kung may nagplagiarize ng article ko... gulat ako at meron. hahaha. pero okay lang, inamin namn niya na kinopya nya lang yun, pero sana nag-cite siya ng source..


grabe! by katiekatekate
Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 02:34:15 AM
ay grabe search ko din sa google kung merong nangopya ng article ko at meron nga!!!

http://h0tpink28.blogspot.com/2005/04/hinding-hindi.html


re: by jhome
Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 08:06:19 AM
she deleted her blog. i tried checking it again this morning pero cannot be found na. sana man lang mag-apologize sya


  • Re: by payatitat on Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 12:20:01 PM
    • Re: by Handyfemme on Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 01:05:40 PM
  • Re: by mao_tse_tung_tung on Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 02:17:48 PM
yep by lagsh
Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 02:11:10 PM
encountered lot of 'em. here's the most recent:

http://www.tropanggapo.com/messageboardview.phtml?id=2240

that's my SANA GUWAPO AKO article. being claimed by some Kian as his (kasi pinalitan yung lines na 'Lagsh, ang cute mo!' to 'Kian, ang cute mo!'.




nakakatawang nakakainis by aaliyah
Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 05:58:41 PM
MayGad. Nag-google din ako at ang article kong Queer Culture Shock: On Gay Men in the Teaching Profession ay overabused na pala sa mga malalaswang websites hosted by gay circles. Nakakatawa na nakakainis na nakakatakot.


I AM SOOOO INFURIATED!!! by pInKgUrL
Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 09:46:05 PM
After reading this, I thought to myself why not try to see if anyone dared to plagiarize my one and only article published so far in peyups (I refuse to). And guess what to my utter surprise, It was!! And no acknowledgement at all. As if they wrote it. And on several blogs pa at ilang forums. My gosh, im shaking right now coz I am soooo mad!


Re: did you know there's a PEYUPi.com? by pInKgUrL
Friday, December 23, 2005 @ 10:31:39 PM
its funnee, may PEYUPi.com pla. the PUP counterpart of Peyups. and yeah i know this because someone copied my article and posted it there. at lalaki pa sya. hahaha... grabe...


advocacy by Kuo_Chun
Saturday, December 24, 2005 @ 12:31:13 AM
here's an idea...

if we want to be PRO-active about this- since we spend a substantial amount of time online and have our own networks...

if we start a thread in the forums where concerned readers can, at the very least report sightings of hijacked artiks by "copy-pasting" the hijacker's URL's at this "new" thread...

maybe we can call the thread

"PLAGIARISTS!!! CAUGHT RED HANDED"

maybe it'll make others think twice before they take without permission, plus i think its only just that we use the same "cut&paste" against them...

it may sound like a witch-hunt, but aren't we the aggreived?



Re: A genuine apology by MsApology
Saturday, December 24, 2005 @ 01:25:36 AM
I am breaking my silence because those who have been affected by what I did deserve these heartfelt words : "I'm sorry"

I deleted the site already (as one of my friends suggested I do).

It was irresponsible of me to have posted those articles without the writers' knowledge, and again, I take full responsibility for my idiotic actions.

I hope the peyups community (and affected parties) would give me a chance to redeem myself.

Thank you and blessings to all.


  • Re: okay by johannes_lee on Saturday, December 24, 2005 @ 02:08:33 AM
  • Re: by payatitat on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 08:25:53 PM
Re: Waaaahhh! :( by HuYu
Saturday, December 24, 2005 @ 02:46:11 AM
putakte... kinopya ang essay ko! :(
weird kasi nang-gagala-iti ako at the same time, proud kasi first time kong nakopya... hahaha!


Kopyahan by dRacULatIOn16
Saturday, December 24, 2005 @ 10:19:03 AM
Pati ba naman dito may nangongopya? dapat nga sinabi man lang nila yung pinagkunan nila ng article. Sana hindi nila yun ginagawa kasi minsan yung mga nangongopya, sila yung napagkakamalan na talagang nagsulat nung mga articles na nakopya nila at sa kanila napupunta yung mga credits na dapat ay para talaga sa gumawa.


  • Re: i agree by batgirl95 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 @ 12:12:12 AM
Re: may nag-plagiaraize kaya sa artik ko? by ethan_karl
Saturday, December 24, 2005 @ 04:29:44 PM
hmm.. i did cut & paste an artik here to forward it to my friends but i included the writer and the website..

may nangopya na kaya ng kaisa-isang artik ko? hehe.. Although nakaka-flatter, nakakainis talaga yan. A Valedicatorian (a year younger than me) of a reputable school sa Pampanga copied 90% of my own Valedictory Speech. Malas niya i attended their Graduation kaya nahuli ko siya.


Re: personalan ito by batgirl95
Saturday, December 24, 2005 @ 05:32:16 PM
i agree with most of the comments, okay lang to cut and paste THEN cite the source. nahanap ko na rin yung friendshipfactor.com or .net... oh my god. someone called abie_08 has the gall to cut and paste my article as her blog! whoever she is... pray that i don't find you. oh... tama na... the wrinkles...


Re: ano kaya..? by muzikera
Sunday, December 25, 2005 @ 12:53:17 PM
hindi ko alam kung dapat kong ikatuwa na hindi ako nakokopya..dahil hindi naman ako nagsususulat masyado..hehe! kawalan ba ng talent o tamad lang talaga!!! ^0^


Re: Articles ng Peyups na kinopya.. by yshee
Sunday, December 25, 2005 @ 06:35:06 PM
sa friendster.. maraming ngkalat na articles sa peyups n an kkapal ng mukhang ipost sa friendster blogs nila as if cla un gumwa.. although hndi nman nila claim n cla un gumwa non.. pero hndi rin nman nila inacknowledged un writer or un Peyups.. mismo.. kainis noh..?

example na toh:
http://yjhenmendoza.blogs.friendster.com/my_blog/





tsk. by textunlimited
Sunday, December 25, 2005 @ 08:43:12 PM
dapat parusahan ang mga mahilig mag cut and paste. i was a victim nung high school. g@g% din itong paper adviser, at pinalabas na ako yung nag plagiarize, to think na i was the eic!


DEAR PEYUPS COMMUNITY by Malatesta
Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 01:18:38 AM
If I steal someones idea and used it for myself, Im doing a good thing, I am spreading the idea and thats important. To who it belong is irrelevant.

If the person who the idea "belongs" gets angry,
his/her goal is not to spread a good idea, but to make him/her self look good. Or better yet to make him/her self look better, better than you. By, doing this he/she creates the image that some people are gifted with creativity, that philosophers and artist are a select few, that are better than the average person.

He/she will make people believe that they cant create, and that they should put artists on pedestals and adore their talents, instead of using their own.

However, people that take an idea and do nothing with it besides putting their names under it, are doing exactly the same; trying to make themselves look better, even though without coming up with a good idea.

But stealing an idea might give it a new meaning, or a better use, or lead to revolutionary ideas... This is called (r) evolution! To believe that an idea can totally belong to one person is ridiculous. They will have always been inspired, influence, affected by others or the environment they are in.

It might even be a counter reaction to something, but without that something, the idea would have never been born.

An IDEA CAN NEVER BE PURELY YOURS!!! YOU CANT OWN AN IDEA!!!

Ps:
This idea was influence by, maybe even stolen from
someone who probably stole it from someone else, and i hope you steal it too!


  • Re: by yshee on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 02:34:33 AM
  • Re: by s_w_a_y on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 04:03:55 AM
  • ahahahahhahahahahha. by caravaggio on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 09:57:10 AM
  • whoa! by seminarista on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 01:30:23 PM
  • Re: duh? by johannes_lee on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 01:50:08 PM
    • Re: by dAnconia on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 03:16:31 PM
  • Re: by mikhell on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 03:45:27 PM
  • wat da pak? by D_Angel on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 04:12:05 PM
  • apir pare! by redefined on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 05:07:38 PM
  • Re: by payatitat on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 08:28:44 PM
  • Re: by singleandlooking on Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 10:42:21 PM
  • Re: by soliloqueen on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 02:19:40 PM
  • Re: i pity you by batgirl95 on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 04:23:23 PM
  • Re: 'nyeta ka a! by coolwaters on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 03:30:04 PM
  • tingin ka muna sa salamain. by textunlimited on Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 02:47:42 PM
    • typo! by textunlimited on Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 02:48:18 PM
  • Re: by my_niche on Monday, January 02, 2006 @ 04:14:55 PM
ahahaha akala naman ng mga ilang komentador dito... by aspergian
Monday, December 26, 2005 @ 07:35:13 PM
top quality ang mga akda nila para umalma na para bang ginahasang primadonna.

matanong ko nga kayo, binabayaran ba kayo para magsulat dito sa peyups?

ano yun? ano raw? la ako marinig.

sa tingin ko may 2 paraan para tignan ang pangongopya:

1. negatibo. kumilos na para bang may kontrol ka pa sa produkto mo pagkatapos mo ito pakawalan sa <i>internet</i>, ang pinakamalawak at pinakamalayang porma ng komunikasyong naimbento mula sa pagsulpot ng printing press.

2. positibo. magblush ka na lang, darling. <b>plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery.</b> the more your work is copied and recopied, the more value your work accumulates, the longer your work remains alive to influence other people's lives instead of languishing in an infinitessimal backwater of the web, inevitably forgotten.

tama si <b>malatesta</b>. kung pangalan lang ang habol mo kaya ka nagsusulat, magshow ka na lang gamit ang iyong webcam, mas mabilis ka pa sisikat sa internet.

kung secure ka sa kakayahan mong magsulat, dala-dala mo na yan sa buong buhay mo. kaya mong <b>lumikha</b>. ang nangopya hindi. knowing that ought to be enough.


nkKagaletttt... hehehe by yshee
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 01:41:46 AM
Mei bayad man o wla un mga writer/contributors d2.. mei copyright man o wala ang site na ito at mga articles d2.. ang issue pa rin d2 ay PLAGIARISM. Sa madaling salita, kun inaako/inaangkin mo o kinokopya mo ang gwa/sinulat ng iba ng walang pahintulot (o pag cite ng source), ikaw ay isang MAGNANAKAW.

Sana maintindihan ito ng mga taong pilit pa rin pinagtatanggol an baluktot nilang paniniwala at pangangatwiran.

Respeto na lang sa mga naghirap, gumwa, at nglaan ng time and effort d2 sa Peyups community.

____________________
FYI, ako po ay hindi sa UP nag-aral. Produkto po ako ng Polytechnic University of the Philippines - Sta. Mesa, Manila.



pasensya rin po.... by kisstherain
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 11:37:18 AM
I have a blog too. In that blog, I posted an article and quotes from here. Pero I make sure I mention there who the author is (the pen name indicated here). And I always use quotation marks when I include quotes there. Yun nga lang, I forgot to mention na they're from peyups.com. And I also shared two articles in my class last sem na galing dito sa site na ito. Again, di ko nakalimutan ilagay names ng authors pero di ko nanaman nasabi kung san galing na site.

Pagpasensyahan po. I'll just edit my blog entries and sabihin din dun na dito sa peyups.com galing yung mga articles na yun. As for the articles na shinare ko in class, ala na akong magagawa. Pero I didn't convey there at all na ako nagsulat nun kasi I included the authors wrote those articles... Pero muli, paumanhin po...


  • as long as by taas_kilay on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 11:54:32 AM
  • that's great! by Kuo_Chun on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 12:03:51 PM
not just google by taas_kilay
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 12:06:14 PM
you guys should try Copy Scape.com.just put the web address of the article and voila. You'll be amused (or absolutely infuriated) with the results. If there aren't any, then Thank God.

i did that once and found one of my articles posted in some forum with the "author" basking in the compliments. hahahaha. what took me days to write, took him/her minutes to copy and bask in the glory. hehehehe.

sometimes, there are bloggers out there who get almost every article i write. hahaha. striving for consistency now, aren't we? hehehe


Re: by Revan
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 04:01:06 PM
Minsan naman may nagsa-submit ng plagiarized articles dito sa peyups.com, kaya ingat, dapat may disclaimer dito na hindi lahat ng articles ay makakasiguro na galing ang mga iyon sa original author.


  • Re: by Revan on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 04:03:01 PM
Re: natuto din! by LeOptics
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 06:53:45 PM
tiningnan ko yung mga sites na naka-post dito, cancelled na yung iba. natuto din sila. minsan may nabasa kong blog, naka-post yung isang article ni noringai tungkol sa sapatos. wala man lang acknowledgement. sinita ko dahil alam kong di naman sya si noreen. tapos inilagay ko sa tagboard nya yung link ng peyups artik. ;)


"But it's *gasp* PLAGIARISM!" so what? by aspergian
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 08:30:28 PM
imagine if the people who invented the letters 'e, a, i, o, r, & s' had copyrighted those same letters, which incidentally are the commonest letters/sounds used in english communication.

think of the nightmare of footnotes we are obliged to add everytime we write.

really, people, my & malatesta's point is that your moralistic, kindergarten assertion that 'plagiarism is evil period' or any other variation thereof <b>ISN'T</b> good enough. in fact, it's pretty irrational considering the context. do not let your indoctrinations interfere with your critical faculties. we thought that was the whole point of learning; thinking & knowing for yerself instead of taking someone's word as authoritative.




  • Re: by johannes_lee on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 09:53:32 PM
    • whatever the context...talaga? by aspergian on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 10:47:50 PM
      • Re: by johannes_lee on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 01:00:41 AM
        • Re: by batgirl95 on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 04:27:29 PM
  • Re: by batgirl95 on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 04:08:21 PM
ALL ABOUT DANIEL QUITORIANO (DANES96) --- From his EX-BF by danes96
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 09:43:44 PM
i did love Daniel Quitoriano albeit he has crooked dark penis and lots of dark spots all over his body. But things have to end after discovering that he cheated at me three times (probably more). well, karma will take its course. for now, i destroyed his reputation and credibility to his family (well, his parents and brothers know he's gay and our story), friends, and officemates (including his bosses in accenture). He’s currently feeling devastated. He is so stupid for keeping the conversation logs and i sent these to his managers.

Daniel Quitoriano may have lots of techie stuffs but wait you see his credit card billing statements - it's sky-rocketing. he had many times received demand letters from Citibank and HSBC. right now, he owes a lot from Citibank and BPI (which he's just a supplementary cardholder). Hence, his techy stuff are just ‘utang’ so don’t be amazed.


  • Re: ha? by johannes_lee on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 10:20:42 PM
  • lol by aspergian on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 10:28:52 PM
ALL ABOUT DANIEL QUITORIANO (DANES96) --- From his EX-BF by danes96
Tuesday, December 27, 2005 @ 09:44:43 PM
i did love Daniel Quitoriano albeit he has crooked dark penis and lots of dark spots all over his body. But things have to end after discovering that he cheated at me three times (probably more). well, karma will take its course. for now, i destroyed his reputation and credibility to his family (well, his parents and brothers know he's gay and our story), friends, and officemates (including his bosses in accenture). He’s currently feeling devastated. He is so stupid for keeping the conversation logs and i sent these to his managers.
Daniel Quitoriano may have lots of techie stuffs but wait you see his credit card billing statements - it's sky-rocketing. he had many times received demand letters from Citibank and HSBC. right now, he owes a lot from Citibank and BPI (which he's just a supplementary cardholder). Hence, his techy stuff are just ‘utang’ so don’t be amazed.


Peyups people missed my other point! by Malatesta
Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 01:41:54 AM
read:

"However, people that take an idea and do nothing with it besides putting their names under it, are doing exactly the same; trying to make themselves look better, even though without coming up with a good idea."

I WOULD RATHER STEAL THAN COPY!

plagiarise the world.
deconstruct civilization.
break property.

liberate!


Re: by yshee
Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 02:26:53 AM
Mabuhay si DANIEL QUITORIANO at ang kanyang EX-BF...

Mabuhay ang mga PLAGIARIST!!!!

*sigh*



  • Re: by Malatesta on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 02:43:28 AM
Re: lighten up, people by batgirl95
Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 04:03:49 PM
ladies and gentlemen who have been offended by the rampant plagiarism (or whatever the hell you want to call it) of write-ups and articles in this website, we have been, at one time or another, victims of this kind of rape (as the act was called in the other column... sorry, di ko matandaan name nung columnist but all the praise to you). condemning these people won't make us feel better. tataas lang ang blood pressure natin, cause us sleepless nights and suffer from all the other results of extreme rage and worrying. so i have a couple of suggestions.

first, since we shouldn't condemn them, i suggest we take it a step further. may isang comment i think suggesting a thread just to expose these plagiarists. that's a good idea. or we could pester them with emails and tell the people outside our beloved peyups community what they've been doing (just like i did, posting bulletins on a few popular websites specifically giving out the plagiarist's name). but these measures take time.

so here's my other suggestion: bakit hindi tayo magtayo ng isang institution to educate these people on proper citation and the true purpose of intellectual property laws? we could call it the institution for those unaware of intellectual property rights. teach them that there's a difference about liberation and plagiarism. that we do have a right to do whatever the hell we want so long as it does not injure another. if being a victim of plagiarism is not injury, i don't know what is. but i'm not talking about the traditional lectures, recitations.... i was thinking more along the lines of literal nating ididikdik sa mga ulo nila ang purpose of intellectual property rights. yung tipong pag hindi parin nila ma-gets tinatali patiwarik then we bang their heads against the walls over and over and over and over...let them swing parang pendulum. that's just for the first level.

the second level, bakit hindi natin sila i-cover ng asukal at ipakain sa genetically engineered (sorry if i used the wrong term, i suck at bio) colony of ants the size of ten centavo coins.

well, that was just something to lighten you guys up. you know, something nice to think about when you think that the wrinkles are increasing. pero i was serious about the let's not just condemn part. we should do something about it. we should at least make an effort to stop this before everyone loses the will to freely submit stuff dahil alam nating may chance na ma-plagiarize din naman. pwede din tayong maghintay nalang na makarma sila... i mean, what goes around comes around di ba?


*your own* words to codify your reality by wkt
Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 07:21:50 PM
We could go into detail of the her/history of homo sapiens and how we wouldn't be where we are now, technologically and intellectually speaking, if copyrights existed before it absolutely had to.

Basically, intellectual property rights are useful so that if there is any money to be made from your unique idea or innovation or creative genius/skill, *you* get paid, and not some bozo who merely stole your idea.

Now, for writers who don't even turn in a profit, it's like rubbing it in. The least is we get credit for the unique and eloquent way we have strung words together to beautifully describe our reality.

I pity the person who has to copy someone else's string of words to codify their reality. It is sad.




negative reactors confuse identity theft for plagiarism by aspergian
Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 08:08:54 PM
i never realized that there exists a vocal part of the peyups community who possess enough righteousness to refrain from acquiring and consuming pirated sound files, videos, etexts, images and software so as to judge plagiarism as equivalent to theft. but this observation is secondary only to this post's main point, as follows. i asked previously what does the peyups.com author lose when s/he is plagiarized, what exact property of the author is stolen by the plagiarist? the most plausible unanimous answer that came up was...respect? how so? because the plagiarist pretends that the experiences and emotions and mild philosophical musings and opinions narrated in the average peyups.com article is hir own. the lack of a citation disrespects the author's ego because it is precisely this ego, this identity that is being stolen and not the factual, informative content of the article itself. let's face it, the average peyups.com article fits more in a personal blog or hardcopy diary. it offers little to no information that would be of lasting interest to a person other than the author. it is not a coincidence that the copied articles are found in other people's (specifically adolescents of certain income brackets) personal blogs and other sites where an identity is still used as foundation for cybersocialization. what truly offends plagiarized peyups.com authors is the loss of their online identity and not the so-called theft of their article's content since in the first place there was no content to begin with.


  • please delete by aspergian on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 08:12:27 PM
negative reactors confuse identity theft for plagiarism by aspergian
Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 08:11:16 PM
i never realized that there exists a vocal part of the peyups community who possess enough righteousness to refrain from acquiring and consuming pirated sound files, videos, etexts, images and software so as to judge plagiarism as equivalent to theft. but this observation is secondary only to this post's main point, as follows.

i asked previously what does the peyups.com author lose when s/he is plagiarized, what exact property of the author is stolen by the plagiarist?

the most plausible unanimous answer that came up was...respect?

how so? because the plagiarist pretends that the experiences and emotions and mild philosophical musings and opinions narrated in the average peyups.com article is hir own.

the lack of a citation disrespects the author's ego because it is precisely this ego, this identity that is being stolen and not the factual, informative content of the article itself. let's face it, the average peyups.com article fits more in a personal blog or hardcopy diary. it offers little to no information that would be of lasting interest to a person other than the author. it is not a coincidence that the copied articles are found in other people's (specifically adolescents of certain income brackets) personal blogs and other sites where an identity is still used as foundation for cybersocialization.

what truly offends plagiarized peyups.com authors is the loss of their online identity and not the so-called theft of their article's content since in the first place there was no content to begin with.


swerte ako by secret
Wednesday, December 28, 2005 @ 08:13:06 PM
swerte ba ako kung sasabihin kong hindi pa ata ako nabibiktima ng plagiarism dahil sa mga peyups articles ko? hehe. ewan ko lang. kasi naman, sinong may matinong pag-iisip naman kaya ang magpplagiarize sa mg article ko at magpapahayag sa buong mundo na siya ay bisexual at nabiktima pa ng incestuous sexual harrassment! bwahaha! tingnan na lang natin kung may kakagat. *wink*

seriously now, i am in the mood to flame/spam all plagiarists that we can catch red-handed. They don't deserve to be "praised" for something they did not have a hard time putting together. Matuto sila gumawa ng articles na sarili nila.


My Apologies by yshee
Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 02:36:10 AM
para sa mga taong na offend ko sa mga posted comments ko dito..

para sa mga napahiyang tao dahil sa pagbanggit ko ng pinanggalingan kong school ng hindi naman kailangan...

para sa mga taong nadamay na hindi naman dapat..

para sa paggamit ko ng text lingo sa mga comments ko...

my apologies.



PROPERTY IS THEFT by Malatesta
Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 04:34:33 AM
does your professor knows that creativity and ideas don't just pop-out without being inspired/influenced by other factors (i.e. other people, nature, cosmic, etc)?

hence, where do ideas come from? if creativity and idea is innate with us, it only means that we are capable of helping each other by sharing to improve ourselves for existence.

but, Intellectual Property is the total opposite of sharing. it ALIENATES the use-value of ideas to humanity (read: egoism).

that is why, STEALING will always be the structural opposite of PROPERTY. without property, stealing lost its meaning.

if you want your IDEA to be helpful- try not to purely own it. because in the end, we utilize ideas not the authors.

but in the world of consumerism and selfish morality, it is not surprising to know that IDEAS are used for exchange-value (market) rather than its use-value (practical purpose).

people who defend Intellectual Property is equal to Starving the multitudes despite of enough world resources to feed humanity.

thanks to the concept of Property, billions of people die in hunger.

and thanks to Intellectual Property, billions of people are illiterate.

PLAGIARISM IS FUN!
STEAL BACK YOUR LIFE!



Re: pa-share.. by velvetmoon
Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 01:45:16 PM
im a newbie and there are some cool articles that i rili wanna share wit my friends. wud it be ok so long as I indicate the source and the author?


  • Re: by batgirl95 on Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 02:11:13 PM
    • Re: welcome =) by velvetmoon on Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 04:36:59 PM
ang puso, mga kapatid. by textunlimited
Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 02:37:24 PM
cool lang kayo! mga high blood!

t*ngin*ng plagiarist na mga yan.


Re: Umm. by Dodie
Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 08:10:51 PM
Inaamin ko na nag copy-paste ako minsan para sa aking website. http://www.mognet.tk

Pero linagyan ko ng hyperlink na maglilink sa peyups.com Yung article pala eh yung "Ako ay isang bulaklak ng Santan."

Kung patanggal nyo po OK lang po sa akin. Natamaan kasi ako. =)


  • Re: by kookabara on Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 09:02:52 PM
Re: Teka by Dodie
Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 08:16:12 PM
Kung ayaw nyo pong pa copy-paste ang mga articles ng Peyups. Lagyan nyo po ng java script (para sa webmaster) ng Disable Right-Click code. Ehehe, bale wala nang copy-paste, itytype nalang ng magnanakaw ang buong article para makuha. Or kung alam nyang mang hack ng Java Script codes. Hope that helps. =)


  • Re: by redefined on Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 10:24:54 PM
Re: Screw you. by rAzZjAZZ
Thursday, December 29, 2005 @ 11:04:32 PM
Aspergian may be correct in saying that no one owns ideas, and that we all should be happy someone is reading and using our words and ideas. But can't they think up better ways to spread the damn word than copy off someone?

I mean, sure, everyone is influenced by someone or something, but to copy them word for word? That's too freaking much.

I agree with the anti-plagiarism people. Aspergian is an ignorant bastard. Imagine, writing for hours and staying up all night just thinking for the right word to say, JUST so another damn person can copy off of you? Why write when someone would take everything you've slaved for? Screw that. No Vaseline.

Not to seek recognition for your hard-earned achievements is crazy and unrealistic. Aww. Aspergian is just sooo altruistic. You want the free-flowing thievery of plagiarism, and scoff at glory?

I guess that's easy to do, if you haven't written anything half-decent. Do us all a favor and shut the hell up.


just passing through by taas_kilay
Friday, December 30, 2005 @ 04:19:20 AM
If i wrote something which inadvertently touched someone enough for that person to thank me or compliment me for it, is it such a crime for me to feel warm and fuzzy because of that?

Now say i see my articles being copied and posted on another site... a blog if you will. And there are no credits whatsoever. The blogger took it as his or her own. Then people comment on it. Praising the owner of the blog for such insight.

Do i feel bad that he or she basks in the praise of something i came up with? Yes. But lest someone capitulates on my humanity, let me just say that at the end of the day, it's not about the compliments per se.

I feel cheated. My efforts gone to naught. Why write at all when others are at liberty to just take what you've done?

And what is so wrong about taking pride in what we do, in what we accomplish? Is there any fault in our need to be acknowledged for the things we have done in our lifetime regardless of whether or not we were compensated for it?

Is having our egos stroked really so bad?

I'm not just talking about writers, but people in general. Give me a person who hasn't basked in the pleasure of warm praise every now and then.

Personally, taking my articles and posting them on personal sites... even public sites without due credit to THIS community let alone to the author, feels like having something taken from me without my permission, and i get a spit or a laugh in the face in place of a thank you.

Words are indeed free. Free for everyone to use and re-use. But insight and style aren't as they are unique to the individual. After all, everyone is entitled to see the world through their own eyes and be interpreted in their own way.


in tangles by wkt
Saturday, December 31, 2005 @ 01:22:21 AM
LoL! Needless to say, there are many issues surrounding that of plagiarism.

and there are many world views and paradigms that seem to clash. and of course, i do not want to elaborate on it because, one, i'm lazy as hell, and two, if i'm going to write anything substatial about this issue, i might as well get the credit for the work i've done. clearly, there are people here who do not believe in MLA and citing resources.

how did you ever get past that during college? i mean, i, too, believe in the envigorating atmosphere that a free flow of ideas creates. but until you have actually experienced having someone else get credit for your hard work (ego-schmego. that's not the issue here. it's about justice.), you won't understand how it feels, and why so many people feel this strongly about plagiarism. unless, of course, having other people quote you word for word, and passing that off as their own, does not bother you one bit.

the other thing is, there are many false accusations and assumptions being made in the arguments flying around here that miss the mark, and therefore earn negative reactions.

when anyone starts to judge the character of the people making arguments, that's when you know they're running out of ammunition.

in the end, you cannot make other people change the way they feel about a certain issue by throwing logic at them mercilessly, and making them the villains they are probably not. who is anyone to judge but the court, which of course, has it's own institutional flaws?

in the end, it is still empathy that wins over. if she feels and connects with what i am saying, beyond the level of cortical analysis, and i somehow strike a chord with what she has experienced herself, the sense of loneliness lessens. and that is the power of a good writer/artist/sub-creator.

i know people who express their gratitude for putting words to an experience in a way that encourages the writer to keep putting words to feelings, instead of making them stop sharing their gift of words to those who wish to feel that there is something more to life than cold, hard facts.

i wish there were more of them, because it would make the world an easier place to live in.




Re: i just want to say this... by twizted_coffee
Sunday, January 01, 2006 @ 03:03:26 PM
i recently read something on one of the blogs in friendster and yeah, rampant na ang pangongopya ng mga articles dito.. check nyo itong blog na ito sa friendster: http://ur_shentot.blogs.friendster.com/my_blog...i forgot sino ung writer pero man, kinopya nya buong article about tax-payers ekkekk tsak ung "ang comsci kong pag-ibig". grabe ha..


Mula sa www.peyupi.com by Sgt_Bob
Monday, January 02, 2006 @ 05:31:27 PM
Magandang Hapon.

Hindi ko maitatanggi na ang aming komunidad ay nagkasala sa www.peyups.com ng plagiarism, ngunit ako, isang Forum Moderator ng www.peyupi.com, ngayon ay humihingi ng dispensa sa mga nagawa nitong pagkakamali ng ilan sa aming mga miyembro.

Nakahingi na ako ng tawad kay Pinkgurl at kung sino pa man ang naapektuhan ng ganitong hindi magandang gawain, ay sana ay mapatawad ang www.peyupi.com.

Ang buong pamunuan ng www.peyupi.com ay nagbibigay respeto sa iba't-ibang website na may iba't ibang uri ng sulatin, sanaysay o artikulo, kaya asahan ninyo ang pagbabago gagawin namin sa aming komunidad.

Maraming salamat at mabuhay ang www.peyupS.com, ganoon na rin ang aming bahay.

Gumagalang,
Sgt. Bob
(www.peyupi.com Forum Moderator)


Re: by jiminabottle
Friday, January 06, 2006 @ 05:02:15 PM
Did the same thing. Googled a bit of my article and lookie here, found both my articles posted on at least a couple websites without the slightest mention of where they came from or who wrote them. I'm raising hell.


Re: Kayong Dalawa by rAzZjAZZ
Monday, January 09, 2006 @ 05:45:28 PM
Antanga niyo. Ewan ko kung nagpapaka-deep lang kayo at sadyang nag-dedeviate o talagang ignorante lang kayo. Hindi nga gumagana ang komunismo na noon niyo pang ipinipilit!

Ganito na lang para di na ko lumayo sa usapan.

Walang nagmamay-ari ng isang ideya, tama `yun. Halimbawa, kung ang mga sinusulat natin ay may kaunting impluwensiya ng mga ideya ni Rizal, walang problema `yun.

Ngunit kapag kinopya natin ang El FIlibusterismo at Noli at ipapa-publish sa ating pangalan, mali na `yun.

Ideya, ayos lang. Pero kapag kahit ang pag-sabi ay ginagaya, mali `yun.


Hindi ko maintindihan by roni_bats
Wednesday, January 11, 2006 @ 03:41:23 PM
...kung bakit may mga taong pinagpipilitan na ayos lang ang pagkopya ng artikulo nang hindi sinasabi kung kanino o saan ito nanggaling. Saang planeta ba kayo ipinanganak?

Dada kayo nang dada, puro palusot naman. *headscratch*


kahit dito peyups... by jhome
Thursday, January 12, 2006 @ 09:10:37 AM
... me nabasa na akong article na kinopya from DLSU's lit folio some years back. just like this one: http://peyups.com/article.khtml?sid=2062


  • Re: by xyxy on Thursday, January 12, 2006 @ 04:06:19 PM
Re: village idiots... by marckx
Thursday, January 12, 2006 @ 07:52:48 PM
malatesta, aspergian and co.:
<p>
allow me to be very empathic:
<p>
what is it with you people? you use words like "(r)evolution," "liberation," "deconstruction..." do you even know what in the hell you're talking about? writers like myself, writers like everyone here in peyups, we! we are the ones who make the revolution in thought possible. we are the ones who liberate you from the ignorance that define your lives. we are the deconstruction of your mediocrity. arrogant? of course! why shouldn't i be? after all, people copy my blog entries everywhere in the world, and it never fails to tick me off. for heaven's sake, what makes
<p>
reality check: think about this before you drown me in the spittle of your "ideology" and whatever you want to call it. how many times have people lauded you for copying whatever any one of us have written? how much "new knowledge" have you made by copying our ideas instead of synthesizing and improving what little we can give the world of them? how proud you have become, how blind have you turned out to be, that your idea of "revolution" is right-clicking through a damned page and hitting the copy button.
<p>
you talk about egoism... that ego is all we have as writers, dammit! we don't get paid for what we do, you know. what is a little bit of glory but a moment in time? what is a little bit of fame but a split-second? i guess you wouldn't understand that, will you?
<p>
let's face it: your "revolution," or whatever you want to call it, is nothing more than a farce. what's so revolutionary about copying?


this drama so far: a draft summation by aspergian
Friday, January 13, 2006 @ 04:06:53 PM
anti-plagiarists have arrayed into 2 camps:

hardliners do not differentiate material property from intangible, intellectual property. they draw upon the full force of institutional copyright law to argue that plagiarism is theft & therefore wrong.

they also go beyond the parameters of this debate, namely:

1. plagiarism discussed is within the context of the peyups.com community
2. plagiarized articles are not sold either by the author to peyups.com or the plagiarizer to anyone else.

...to generalize that plagiarism is and has been a crime for all time, supposedly even during the periods of civilizations when the concept of property did not yet exist.

they appeal from the authority of academia, citing the behavioral conditioning they received there as if the information structure of academia and the internet were one and the same.

softliners are observant of the given parameters, making no sweeping claims about plagiarism outside the givens, are generous with their contributions, are in fact, tolerant of the copy-paste technique asking only that their names accompany their text wherever the text may go.

it's more difficult to persuade the softliners since one readily wishes to grant their simple request. author attribution remains a request and not an obligation in the medium of the internet, this is the premise from w/c our whole issue is based upon & what our anti-plagiarists are whining against.

however, since our softliners eschew any form of material reward for their trouble of what is supposedly the enjoyable act of creative writing, then they are forced to point to the loss of certain grand abstractions when plagiarized. there have been two mentioned so far, Honor/Respect & Justice.

problem with these grand concepts are their varying interpretations from peron to person, so much so that they approach the level of opinion. for example, malatesta and i feel that the deepest honor a living brain can afford an author's ideas, especially dead authors' ideas, are to keep those ideas alive. one way of doing this is to keep those ideas circulating & recirculating in the realm of public discourse. the internet provides the perfect medium for this action as its potential audience is not limited to only a group of peers selected by the author but to anyone with internet access.

the injustice felt by unrecognized authors, in our opinion, pales in comparison to the injustice of depriving a person of information because an author still views her product as spatially and temporally bounded, that is the author is still thinking of her product in material terms where only a certain number of individuals may use it for a certain period of time in a certain location. information, so far, is the the only resource that can be consumed by the planet's population simultaneously. insofar as authorship -and the underlying socio-economic factors that require it- restrict this, malatesta and i prefer that our audience be ignorant & unconcerned of our labels rather than that of our messages/meanings. we are confident that relevant texts speak for themselves and lose no meaning when left un/mislabelled. for example, E=mc^2 loses no meaning if Manny Pacquiao formulated it instead of Albert Einstein. likewise, El Filibusterismo would still had have the same effect on Philippine history even if it was Gloria Arroyo on the cover instead of Jose Rizal. the curious fact that plagiarized peyups.com articles lose all meaning to the author upon appropriation by others bolsters the suspicion that antis are misconstruing identity theft for plagiarism. ---------------------

apologia
i must apologize for the antagonistic tone of my previous posts only insofar as that tone hindered mutual learning. the 2 of us pros still stand by everything that we've said, as it is in our opinion to do so in the same way that despite you anti-plagiarists holding the majority here in peyups.com, your positions are not necessarily true, valid or even of any consequence outsid
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Re: some thoughts by marckx
Friday, January 13, 2006 @ 08:30:51 PM
Hmmm... interesting.

This comment is not in an effort to presume a false sense of "the intellectual." Rather, it is to present some points on the matter in a more academic way, where we can use our knowledge in our disciplines to the maximum. And yes, I may bore people here, but I think that this is a good way of approaching this problem. Let us use this as an avenue for gaining new knowledge. BTW: I could be wrong on some of my interpretations here.

I think you're taking the concept of "free flow of information" a bit too far here. Information, and the meanings of information, are always attached to those who created or otherwise provided that information (for further reading: Merton, Baudrillard, Lyotard, Habermas, Schutz). For example, the meaning of the equation E=mc^2 is not a mere presentation of the relationships that exist between mass and light. The equation also presents the historical fact that Albert Einstein created that equation. Which means that Einstein's being is part of the equation's constitution of meaning (pace Schutz, phenomenological social theory, Giddens).

We are, however, dealing here with texts. The text's constitution of meaning cannot be separated or abstracted from who made that text (invoking postmodernist theories on literature and social inquiry). The meaning of a text is, concordantly, the meaning of the author. Presentations of syntagyms, sentences and other texts are not mere presentations of information, but presentations of selves (cf Goffman, dramaturgical theory). The Akt of writing is a presentation of the self. In the social world, there can only be one self for every identity that participates in social activity. So not only is plagiarism and/or identity theft illegal, it also runs counter to logic and runs counter to social norms and conventions. So yes, aspergian, information is spatially and temporally bounded: information is fundamentally subject to space, time and existence.

To invoke your argument, however, is a mistaken ontology. A text is part of an instrumentality: (Zuhandenheit) you should know that. Phenomenologically, it's not true that "I wrote this text" (See Heidegger). Rather, "I am this text." We cannot, fundamentally, disembody a knowledge or an idea and abstract it, making it "float." So yes malatesta, people can own ideas.

My thanks, and my apologies to people I may have antagonized/bored.

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Selected references:
Goffman, Erving, The Presentation of the Self in Everyday Life, 19__
Natanson, Maurice, Collected Papers I: The Problem of Social Reality, 1962
Ritzer, George, Sociological Theory, 1996
Schutz, Alfred, The Phenomenology of the Social World, 1967
Turner, Jonathan, The Structure of Sociological Theory, 2003 (7th ed)

Postscript: Sources, check. Citation, check.


  • Re: by Kuo_Chun on Friday, January 13, 2006 @ 11:21:28 PM
  • well said by misskopinas on Saturday, January 14, 2006 @ 10:42:24 AM
PLAGIARISM LIBERATES! by Malatesta
Saturday, January 14, 2006 @ 02:03:00 AM
an idea is already an ABSTRACTION of matter. so, what do you mean by: "We cannot, fundamentally, disembody a knowledge or an idea and abstract it, making it "float.""

to add, Property is only an idea. in a Marxist perspective, the transformation of Property into matter is due to the ingredients of Abstract Labor (process). While the post-modernists simply confirmed Property as a product of Ideology that gives meaning to Power (read: Foucault)

Hence, owning a Property is power and knowledge. In return, it again confirm the reality that those who do not own a property remains ignorant. So, it makes sense that ANTI-PLAGIARISM maintains the binary opposite of power/powerless, which the post-modernists is very much critical to such rubbish.

another:
"Information, and the meanings of information, are always attached to those who created or otherwise provided that information."

I am sorry Marckx, you confuse Post-modernist thought to Structuralism (signifier and signified). The process of Deconstructing an idea does not end between the author and the meaning (read: Derrida).

But then again, in Marxist point of view, how does an information becomes useful/functional? is it the use of author or the idea?

owning an idea is simply to deprive its purpose.


On Blog/Net Plagiarism by misskopinas
Saturday, January 14, 2006 @ 10:13:23 AM
Plagiarism destroys academic and literary careers. In the Western World, it spells the death of an author's life span. The practice of plagiarism sa Pinas boils down to the fact that the seriousness of comitting this crime is not taught in the schools and academic institutions kung saan yung mga kriminal na ito ay nag-aral. Here in the UK and in the US, plagiarism is a very serious offense, punishable by law. UK universities issue Plagiarism leaflets upon entry to any course.They use a software that checks on your work verbatim vis-a-vis published work on the net or that which was printed or is known as another's work. To top it off, if another author comes up with a very similar body of work written before or after yours kahit sa papel lang, an investigation insues.
Blog/Net plagiarism is a criminal offense that carries the same penalties and punishments, especially if the original author deems it necessary to make the offender answer for his crimes. It is after all stealing someone's intellectual property. And if a peyups.com article is stolen, the copyright of the author and its' publisher remains.
The following are links to businessweek.com's forums on how to deal with RSS (really simple stealing):
http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2005/07/really_simple_s.html
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/blogspotting/archives/2005/07/is_blog_plagiar.html

Ngayon. Kapag kayo po ay biktima ng ganitong krimen, at ito po ay isang krimen, please notify the administrator of the blogsite and report the plagiarized entries complete with your evidence. Kahit man po nasa Pilipinas ang mga offenders na ito kapag po ang blogsite ay nasa america, sa Europe,Japan etc., they will be prosecuted according to that countries' law. Most blogsites upon your agreement (yung pagcheck mo sa maliit na box na nagsasabing I agree with all the rules/laws etc.) warn against this. Clearly, sila ngayon ay nagkasala sa site at kapag ang site na ito ay gustong kasuhan ng orihinal na manunulat nung article/blog, babalik at babalikan ang nangupya, kahit sa Pilipinas man siya. Malupit po ito sapagkat ang mga blogs na ito ay nagpupublish ng personal addresses nila, at ng kanilang mga pictures at indications of their real life identity.
I think it is time you defend your work. First, let the offender know that you are on to them, and when they have admitted it/or you have solved this conflict via a mutual agreement, its up to you kung patatawarin mo siya and let them get away with it.
The EU and Australia for example stand by the Moral Right of the author (October 2005, Caslon Analytics, http://www.caslon.com.au/ipguide17.htm). This right is inalienable. For the purpose of this, I am qouting Caslon Analytics website on this issue:

" ...they reflect a view of the creator (eg author of a literary work, a painting or film) as deserving respect for creativity, with an inalienable right to:

be recognised as the author of a work
no false attribution of authorship (ie for no-one else to be identified as the author)

prevent others from modifying, distorting, or otherwise interfering with the integrity of that work.

That right is independent of the physical object: the artist for example retains moral rights even though she has sold the canvas. In France moral rights are perpetual - "existing for so long as the work survives in human memory and is an object of exploitation".

(http://www.caslon.com.au/ipguide17.htm)

Various cases had been prosecuted because of this breach and please do not let them get away with it.

If you feel that you need help in letting the Admin of the site know or if you do not know what to do, I'd be glad to help. Filipinos need to know that intellectual property rights and plagiarism are very serious issues indeed.

xrj2





Philippine Copyright: Protecting your work from Plagiarism by misskopinas
Saturday, January 14, 2006 @ 11:37:58 AM
The net is rife with plagiarism. Fortunately, Philippine Law covers this problem and your rights as the author are protected. If you feel the need to enforce this right and protect your creation, I have put together a small ‘guide’ on Philippine Copyright. For the purpose of protecting your articles/blogs which falls between Classes A-O: Literary works in the Philippine copyright law, the following are your Moral Rights to your property:

Chapter 10, Section 193 of the Intellectual property code:
On behalf of the copyright holder:
-Attribution
-The right to be prominently displayed as the creator of the copyrighted material, in any form practical to the work
-The right to change or even withhold the work from circulation
-Integrity of ownership
-The right to object to any alteration detrimental to the name of the creator of the material
-The right to restraining the use of the creator's name in a work not of his making

Tandaan na sa Pilipinas the ‘term of moral rights’ ay pareho lang sa ‘term of copyright of literary work’. Ang paglabag nito ay pareho lang sa paglabag ng Civil Code and it carries a very hefty fine and penalty. The fine is awarded to the copyright holder at pag siya ay patay na, sa kanyang pamilya.

Automatic Copyright:
The Philippine Law permits automatic copyright. Therefore, upon writing , even without publishing, you own the copyright to your work. But just to be sure, everytime you publish/write , lagyan ng ganitong annotation:

Philippine Copyright © (taon/date) by (pangalan ng author)

The Span of a Copyright:
Literary copyrights Class A-O belongs to the author in his lifetime +50 years after his death


Bureau of Legal Affairs: Mediator of Intellectual Property Right Problems:

This is the government body that oversees copyrights in the Philippines. It is a part of the Intellectual Property Rights Office. Section 10 of the Code empowers this Bureau to:

Hear objections on items being applied for copyright violations where damages are no less than 200,000 Php Give the following penalties for copyright violations:
-Issue cease and desist orders which have a fixed time where the copyright violator must stop violating the copyright being infringed
-Accept voluntary orders of compliance or discontinuance as ordered by the Director of Legal Affairs which must consist of the following:
-Assurance to comply with the intellectual property law violated
-Assurance to refrain from unlawful activity on the case being investigated
-Assurance to refund, replace, recall, or repair defective products
-Assurance to reimburse the complainant (usually the copyright holder) of all charges, fees, and payments related to the case
-Seizure of the products that have been subject to infringement
-Forfeiture of all paraphernalia and properties (whether real or personal) involved with the infringement
-Imposition of administrative of fines no less than 5,000 pesos but no more than 150,000 pesos. For every day of continued violation, a fine of 1,000 pesos is imposed.
-Cancellation of any document (permit, registration, etc.) attributed to the product at the discretion of the Director of Legal Affairs
-Withholding of any document pending approval of the Bureau from the respondent (the copyright violator)
-Assessment of damages
-CENSORSHIP of the product
-Other penalties in line with Executive Order 983 (1983)
-The power to implement this section

I sincerely hope this information provided for here would help. This is the website of the Intellectual Property Rights Office. They have their main offices in Makati and the website can enlighten you on how you can better protect your rights or enforce your ownership of your plagiarised work.

http://ipophil.gov.ph/

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the games we play by aspergian
Sunday, January 15, 2006 @ 06:04:40 PM
The Fatal Flaw of Identity: Posttextual Paradigm of Reality and the Dialectic Paradigm of Context

If one examines subtextual dematerialism, one is faced with a choice: either accept the dialectic paradigm of context or conclude that language serves to entrench capitalism. Parry[1] states that we have to choose between capitalism and subdialectic dematerialism. It could be said that a number of theories concerning the failure, and subsequent meaninglessness, of deconstructive society may be found.

"Class is part of the rubicon of consciousness," says Sontag; however, according to Hubbard[2] , it is not so much class that is part of the rubicon of consciousness, but rather the meaninglessness, and eventually the defining characteristic, of class. Sartre uses the term ’subtextual dematerialism’ to denote the common ground between sexuality and society. Therefore, if the dialectic paradigm of context holds, we have to choose between capitalism and neomodernist dialectic theory.

If one examines Baudrillardist hyperreality, one is faced with a choice: either reject subtextual dematerialism or conclude that government is fundamentally used in the service of hierarchy, given that the premise of subcultural theory is invalid. Bataille’s analysis of the dialectic paradigm of context holds that art may be used to disempower minorities. But Lacan uses the term ’subtextual dematerialism’ to denote the role of the writer as artist.

The characteristic theme of Bailey’s[3] essay on the dialectic paradigm of context is the bridge between culture and class. Tilton[4] suggests that we have to choose between subtextual dematerialism and neotextual capitalist theory. It could be said that the subject is interpolated into a capitalism that includes language as a whole.

“Art is part of the meaninglessness of culture,” says Sontag. If the poststructuralist paradigm of narrative holds, we have to choose between capitalism and textual patriarchialism. But the subject is contextualised into a subtextual dematerialism that includes reality as a reality.

Any number of narratives concerning capitalism exist. However, Sartre promotes the use of subtextual dematerialism to analyse society.

The main theme of the works of Tarantino is a neosemiotic whole. It could be said that the subject is interpolated into a dialectic paradigm of context that includes culture as a totality.

Derrida suggests the use of Batailleist `powerful communication’ to deconstruct hierarchy. But an abundance of appropriations concerning the role of the reader as poet may be found.

Bailey[5] implies that we have to choose between the dialectic paradigm of context and cultural dematerialism. In a sense, many theories concerning the prepatriarchial paradigm of consensus exist.

The primary theme of Pickett’s[6] model of the dialectic paradigm of context is the common ground between consciousness and society. Therefore, Baudrillard uses the term ‘capitalism’ to denote the genre, and subsequent rubicon, of textual class.

A number of discourses concerning the role of the participant as artist may be discovered. In a sense, Sontag promotes the use of subtextual dematerialism to read and modify culture.

The subject is contextualised into a precultural theory that includes art as a whole. Thus, Derrida suggests the use of the dialectic paradigm of context to challenge sexism.

The subject is interpolated into a subtextual dematerialism that includes language as a totality. But in Naked Lunch, Burroughs deconstructs Lyotardist narrative; in Port of Saints, however, he denies the dialectic paradigm of context.

If capitalist postdialectic theory holds, we have to choose between the dialectic paradigm of context and the cultural paradigm of narrative. However, the characteristic theme of the works of Burroughs is not deconstruction as such, but subdeconstruction.

1. Parry, K. S. K. (1993) The Absurdity of Class: Capitalism and subtextual dematerialism. Yale University P
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Re: A Challenge by marckx
Monday, January 16, 2006 @ 06:59:44 PM
I'm growing quite annoyed to the point that I'm insane enough to do this.

In the interest of bringing closure to this matter, I'd like to pose a challenge to Aspergian and Co. to engage in an online debate with me (and whoever wants to join in) via an exchange of e-mails, chat or YM on the matter of plagiarism. Simple enough.

Any takers?


Coffee by Kuo_Chun
Tuesday, January 17, 2006 @ 03:07:00 PM
Face to face dialogue, Sunday, Chocolate Kiss Ground Floor. 4pm.

Bring your Balls

:)


Thought Criminal: Plagiarism is Liberty by Malatesta
Wednesday, January 18, 2006 @ 02:09:27 AM
The MAN wrote:

“The formation of Idea is not as much a process of claiming it to be Your own by virtue of it being, at face value, abstract, but because it is part of a greater historical process.”

This fragment of thought written by Marckx is a glimpse of reality that IDEA cannot be contained in a vacuum and exists independently. Hence, it proves his previous premise wrong (ideas can be owned), which reduces ideas into property (exchange-value) that eventually dislocate its “greater historical process” from its purpose (use-value).

In my critique against Plagiarism, my second premise was:

“However, people that take an idea (COPYING) and do nothing with it besides putting their names under it, are doing exactly the same (OWNING); trying to make themselves look better, even though without coming up with a good idea.”

STEALING is the anti-thesis of consumer-oriented norms of distributing Knowledge. It reclaims back the meaning of Ideas “that sources of knowledge are not disembodied.”

Remember, before the existence of copyrighted History Books and laws that vindicates Plagiarism as a crime, our Ancestors have already practiced the total opposite of Plagiarism and Copyright. It is the term ORAL TRADITION that the anthropologists coined it.

In the consumer-oriented norm taught to us by Western Civilization, Plagiarism is indeed a crime that makes our early ancestors and present marginalized communities as CRIMINALS. It is not surprising to know that pre-dominantly in peyups community, hating plagiarists is a NORM. This only proves that Civilization and its dominant Ideology works perfectly on a mind that is numbed by Television, Billboards and other forms of Capitalist propaganda.

In the end, it’s the question of: DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS, OR DO IDEAS HAVE YOU?

If it is criminal to liberate ideas from property, then let there be ThoughtCriminals:
<i>“Being in a minority, even a minority of one, did not make you mad.. If you clung to the truth even against the whole world you were not mad.. Sanity is not statistical.”</i>
(1984, George Orwell)



hm, funny tiffs! by the_sandman
Thursday, January 19, 2006 @ 10:56:35 PM
There are infinite isms to rightly cause chaos in this contest of minds but when ego rules, humor becomes the better-half of brilliance. Consider the mind as an abstraction of brain mechanics and that thought-expression is a representation of force-motion. Idea can then be viewed as a potential energy, with its use-value a force field, its expression a force of that force field, and its effect an actualization of work (force displaced or in motion). An idea is subject to polystate transformations (different thoughts may come from the same basic idea), but it can never be owned just as it can never be created nor destroyed. The expression of idea is a vector, thus it is directional and determinable. Therefore, expression has an origin, which is not a point of creation. The principle of attribution states that something cannot come from where it has never been. Two-dimensional coexistence is neither defense nor coincidence. Parallel, but independent, energy flows are however possible (just as calculus is attributed to both Leibniz and Newton). Legal documents state that the doctrine of anti-plagiarism, inclusive of copyright, is not the protection of idea but the expression of it. The intent of law is to (i) structure diffuse energies and (ii) regulate forces to prevent chaotic momentums. Therefore, a plagiarist can only be as free as a dead meat. See what I'm saying?


Re: sa totoo lang... by arwien
Monday, January 30, 2006 @ 04:07:58 PM
hndi n po nakakatuwa ito.. sana maunawaan nyo na my karapatan at dapat iacknowledge ang mga writers ng article..to malatesta... sna maintindihan mo ang point nila.. at sana matapos na po tong issue na to.. un lng po...



Re: ... by proszeine
Thursday, March 30, 2006 @ 07:18:21 PM
It's actually sad that even college students do not know how to properly quote their sources. Ang laking sakit sa ulo siguro sa mga prof, wahaha... Another thing is if you tell your friends that what they do is wrong they usually reple "kebs' or "okay lang yan, minsan lang".


 
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